VR, AR, AI, metauniverse... These technical terms have become hot high-frequency words in recent years. Recently, Zhuge Kongming, a Peking Opera with 3D effects, starring zhangjianguo, a member of the CPPCC National Committee and Peking opera performing artist, has been recorded. At the beginning of the year, the VR version of "dragon and Phoenix come to life" launched by the National Peking Opera Theater received a large number of fans... Science and technology helped the opera to spread more widely and make the opera glow with new vitality. The reporter interviewed Zhang Jianguo and asked him to talk about how to use scientific and technological means to help the inheritance and dissemination of opera art. Zhang Jianguo's stills in Si Lang exploring his mother Add the wings of science and technology to the Opera Reporter: during the two sessions this year, your proposal on promoting the construction of China's "opera meta universe" has attracted wide attention. What is the starting point for this proposal? Zhangjianguo: since the outbreak of COVID-19, in order to implement the epidemic prevention and control policy and meet the cultural needs of the people, the performances of the major theaters have been adjusted. Most of the theaters and troupes have changed their performances from offline to online, combining drama with science and technology. This has given us a lot of inspiration and made me feel more and more that the deep integration of drama and science and technology has become a reality. Metauniverse is one of the important means. Metauniverse, in short, is to use scientific and technological means to build a new virtual space, and link and interact with the real world. The opera meta universe is to virtualize and digitize the stage performance (real world) and create another space world that can interact with the audience. It is the extension and expansion of the real world. Opera is an art of freehand brushwork, which can precisely combine with the yuan universe to create a world that allows the audience to participate and interact with the audience. Because many operas, especially Beijing operas, are traditional classical stories, it is easy for the audience to enter the yuan universe, go back to the era in the plot, personally feel the stories of that era, experience the truth, goodness and beauty in the opera art, experience the charm of the opera art, and use the yuan universe to spread the opera art. Add wings of a new era to opera and let it fly higher and farther. Reporter: so, what do opera people need to do? Zhangjianguo: Opera people need to do a lot. In addition to my major, I use the meta universe technology to make opera meta universe space and digital Homo sapiens. For example, in the rehearsal of the straw boat borrows an arrow, I acted alone. I played Lu Su once and Zhugeliang again. One person played two roles; After the rehearsal, the metauniverse will be used for post production to make a digital Homo sapiens that can be viewed from all directions and angles. Once the audience enters this space, they can not only talk with me, but also interact with me. We need to do both online and offline. Online, we should first construct a virtual scene, and then create a number of digital Homo sapiens. Digital Homo sapiens will lead the audience into the meta universe to see the play. Offline, a drama yuan universe experience hall will be established. After the audience enters, the digital Homo sapiens will meet them at the door; Then communicate with you and ask about your needs; According to your needs, smart people will lead you into the experience hall; Different experience halls have different content arrangements. If you want to feel the deep love of Si Lang exploring his mother, you will enter the experience Hall of the Song Dynasty to understand the character stories of the Northern Song Dynasty and appreciate the traditional classics of that era. Reporter: does this put forward higher requirements for opera people and even the opera industry? Zhangjianguo: This is inevitable. In the metauniverse, the content presented to the audience must be the most classic plays and aria, and the best actors and performance teams should make it to the highest standard. Only in this way can the audience feel the charm of opera art and absorb the essence of opera art. Only in this way can the art of traditional Chinese opera be spread and promoted, and can it imperceptibly influence the audience and improve the audience's quality. Therefore, under such standards and requirements, both opera actors, opera performers and opera managers need to change their thinking and actively participate in "Opera + technology"; We should also have a sense of innovation and think about what the audience thinks; At the same time, and most importantly, they pay more attention to honing their professional level. Most of the people who use metauniverse now are young people. Young people have active ideas and good publicity effects. If they want to like traditional opera, they must present the best. Once the young audience likes the opera in the yuan universe, they may want to experience the offline theater. Then the offline theater does not achieve the effect of the yuan universe. It is conceivable that the audience will not buy it. After a long time, they will lose this group of young audiences and the online performance communication platform. Of course, supporting reforms are needed. For example, in the reform of the opera stage, the future opera stage should also progress according to the progress of society. The times are advancing, and the entire opera industry also needs to follow the pace of the times. Only in this way can it conform to the law of opera development and promote the development of opera art and even the cause of opera. Keep the original opera Reporter: obviously, technology helps opera, which is good for the inheritance, development and dissemination of opera. Zhangjianguo: not only that, but also plays an important role in the cultivation of opera talents and audiences. Opera is the art of the actor, and talent is the key to the prosperity and development of opera. How to train opera talents? What kind of opera talents should be trained? The application of yuancosmos and other technologies provides us with some ideas. For drama art colleges, they should not only learn from the traditional teaching methods of Beijing opera to cultivate students, but also use VR, AR, AI, metauniverse and other technical means to realize digital teaching and comprehensively cultivate students' professional ability. The audience, too, needs training. The audience's appreciation level has been improved, which can promote the continuous improvement of the actor's level; If the level of actors is improved, the overall quality of the audience can be improved. The two complement each other. This is especially true in the metauniverse. If a large number of young audiences have begun to make full use of the meta universe to carry out important activities such as learning and obtaining information, opera should enter the space of the meta universe earlier, pass the most essence to them, and form an interactive space, so that opera can develop and the audience can have a beautiful experience. Reporter: what is the difference between the yuan universe of traditional opera and traditional performance? Zhangjianguo: traditional performance emphasizes theater effect, which is a space; The yuan universe of drama emphasizes interaction, which is two spaces: the stage is one space, and the yuan universe is one space. The opera meta universe can standardize and digitize all the performance contents, and the contents are accurate to each action of the actor. For example, when Ma Lianliang performed the empty city plan, because he was the standard, it was necessary to use scientific and technological means to record his singing, reading, dancing, hands, eyes, body movements on the stage and digitize them. Later scholars learned, rehearsed and improved based on this -- this is the difference -- and the standard became clearer. At the same time, the meta universe technology can also "revive" the previous generation of art masters, and the audience can communicate and interact with him. It will be an exciting scene! Reporter: where is the connection between the yuan universe and opera? How to grasp the relationship between art and technology? Zhangjianguo: Yuan universe and other high technologies are all means that serve art. The use of meta universe and other means is only to enhance the performance and authenticity of opera art, and facilitate the audience to more easily and truly experience the beauty of opera art. The most important thing is not to lose the opera itself. So, how to grasp the degree between the two? This requires a group of talents who understand opera, audiences and science and technology. To understand opera, we must understand its artistic characteristics, creation rules and stage performance; To understand the audience, we must understand what the audience sees, feels, thinks and thinks; To understand science and technology, we must understand how to combine it with opera art without losing its artistic charm. For example, Peking Opera is a freehand brushwork art with the characteristics of virtualization and programming. There are no stairs on the upper floor of the Peking opera stage; Opening and closing doors, no doors... It all depends on the performance of actors to show the actions of going upstairs and downstairs and opening and closing doors. When applied to the meta universe, we can use the acousto-optic effect to express "real objects". The switching of lights, the bubbling of carpets, and the actors' water sleeves show the torrential rain on the stage. Entering the meta universe, this is the most real feeling. Reporter: where should the combination of drama, science and technology, and digital play stand? Zhangjianguo: finally, let people go back to the theater. Peking Opera is a theater art, but it cannot be separated from the dissemination and assistance of science and technology. Whether it is in the theater or in the meta universe, they should combine with each other, and finally push this art out of the home and into the world, so as to make the Peking opera art more perfect and bright, and let more people feel, appreciate and enjoy it. It does not set that the audience must return to the theater, nor does it set that the audience must be in the meta universe. Everything depends on how the opera develops, and on the audience's recognition and satisfaction. After the sedimentation of time and the measurement of society, the audience has the most say in how far this art can go. But what we should do is to keep the "integrity" of the opera and keep the original flavor of the opera. Construction of Chinese opera Digital Industrial Park Reporter: your China Peking Opera Art Foundation participated in the establishment of the "Chinese opera digital campus" and the Chinese opera digital technology skills training center. What enlightenment does this give us? Zhangjianguo: we should establish a national digital industrial park of Chinese opera as soon as possible. Integrate the R & D and creation of the digital industry of Chinese opera into the national strategy, integrate and gather industries and resources with the creative ability of digital technology, and complete the R & D and result incubation of the digital industry of Chinese opera. We are also trying to promote this digital project. Participating in the creation of the "Digital Campus of Chinese opera" project is a new educational method that takes the combination of Chinese traditional culture and socialist core values as the new starting point, takes the classic plays of 30 famous opera artists of the contemporary age as the main content, realizes opera guidance with animation IP, and implements "opera into the campus" with digital technology. This method provides a new solution to solve the problems such as the lack of standardized courses and the shortage of teachers in the national "drama into the campus" for many years. Participating in the establishment of the Chinese opera digital technology skills training center is to introduce the digital design and production technology into the field of "opera meta universe", focusing on training domestic and foreign digital technology talents to participate in the construction of "opera meta universe". It includes universal education of drama digital technology skills in primary schools, primary training of drama digital technology skills in middle schools, intermediate training of drama digital technology skills in large and medium-sized colleges and universities, and advanced training of drama digital technology skills for on-the-job personnel and enthusiasts in the drama and digital industries. In addition, it is necessary to establish the level certification of the digital technology of traditional opera and carry out standardized management. Reporter: how to view the development prospects of "opera yuan universe" and "Opera + science and technology"? What is the significance of this for the innovative development of opera? Zhang Jianguo: the application of the meta universe should be the inevitable road for the development of science and technology in the coming period. Take Beijing opera for example. It has been more than 230 years since the four Hui troupes came to Beijing and finally formed Peking Opera. At the beginning of the last century, Peking Opera reached its peak with the emergence of the "four famous dans". After the founding of new China, a number of popular classical modern plays (model plays) were staged, which became an innovation period in the history of Beijing opera, a period of great development, and a model of integrity and innovation. Since then, Beijing opera has been